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"Elf-Disclosure" for May 2024

We're 10-months 👶 old now (or 1 year 🎂, if you don't count pre-production development time!), and May was spent on iterative growth and development, breaking new ground with video tutorials, and applying primarily behind-the-scenes and quality-of-life fixes.

To get us started, here are some shiny stats for May 2024, followed by a summary of some of the user-facing changes announced this month in the blog...

Stats

Money Mar 2024 Apr 2024 May 2024
Cluster4 $2540 $1802 $2925
Store $56 $56 $56
CI $100 $100 $100
Cloud $20 $20 $20
Development 3 90h / $13,500 90h / $13,500 90h / $13,500
💝 OSS Sponsorship 5 $35 $35 $35
Total Expenses $16,251 $15,513 $16,636
Income $1,525 $2,021 $1,630
Income % of cash expenses 53.14% 100.4% 52% 4
Income % of all expenses 9.38% 13.02% 9.8%
Focus Mar 2024 Apr 2024 May 2024
Subscribers 413 360 338
Ingress 150TB 256TB 302TB
Egress 58TB 66TB 59TB
Pods 3446 6 3910 3188
Focus Mar 2024 Apr 2024 May 2024
Unique visitors2 15.7K 18.7K 18.9K
Total pageviews2 54.9K 58.5K 56.3K
Discord members 702 826 921
YouTube subscribers - - 72
Focus Mar 2024 Apr 2024 May 2024
Total invested thus far 1 $124,170 $139,683 $156,319
Total revenue $4,820 $6,841 $8,471
Income % of total invested 3.88% 4.88% 5.42%

Resources

The stats below indicate CPU cores used (not percentage), and illustrate that after tenant workloads, our highest CPU consumer is traefik, which significantly spikes up during the daily maintenance window when there's a lot of pod "churn". We run Traefik as a daemonset, meaning we have > 22 pods, each of which gets "excited" when there's a lot of pod churn, and clocks in some heavy CPU usage, but this is still unexpected behaviour. Future work is planned to upgrade Traefik to v3 (it's a major update, needs careful testing), after which we'll revisit the CPU usage.

The "last" values on the chart are specific to when the snapshot was taken, but compared to the previous month, there's not a lot of change in overall tenant CPU usage (which is good, most of the resource pressure is on network and storage I/O). Observant readers will note that April's kubectl top nodes output includes 26 "elves", whereas May's output includes only 16, while the graphed CPU usage remains fairly consistent. This is part of an ongoing "right-sizing" effort!

CPU stats for May 2024

kubectl top nodes
NAME       CPU(cores)   CPU%   MEMORY(bytes)   MEMORY%
dwarf01    266m         3%     23369Mi         73%
dwarf02    177m         2%     23381Mi         73%
dwarf03    167m         2%     23191Mi         72%
dwarf04    173m         2%     25477Mi         80%
dwarf05    176m         2%     23728Mi         74%
dwarf06    159m         1%     23654Mi         74%
dwarf07    239m         2%     23515Mi         73%
dwarf08    224m         2%     23253Mi         73%
dwarf09    273m         3%     23955Mi         75%
dwarf10    180m         2%     23216Mi         72%
elf01      869m         5%     31220Mi         24%
elf02      1113m        6%     32581Mi         25%
elf03      1224m        7%     36480Mi         28%
elf04      1365m        8%     45817Mi         35%
elf05      717m         4%     37240Mi         28%
elf06      1129m        7%     23484Mi         18%
elf07      2480m        15%    42267Mi         32%
elf08      1875m        11%    38316Mi         29%
elf09      978m         6%     44215Mi         34%
elf10      1212m        7%     34618Mi         26%
elf11      1663m        10%    38939Mi         30%
elf12      2959m        18%    36174Mi         28%
elf13      1734m        10%    42492Mi         33%
elf14      1489m        9%     34886Mi         27%
elf15      1728m        10%    34203Mi         26%
elf16      4718m        29%    51986Mi         40%
fairy01    2906m        18%    74833Mi         58%
fairy02    964m         6%     45500Mi         35%
fairy03    576m         3%     32683Mi         25%
giant01    1540m        12%    30243Mi         47%
giant02    862m         7%     27471Mi         42%
giant03    2462m        20%    31634Mi         49%
gnome01    1098m        13%    26761Mi         41%
gnome02    382m         4%     12228Mi         19%
gnome03    554m         6%     10844Mi         16%
goblin04   498m         4%     59342Mi         46%
goblin05   377m         3%     49317Mi         38%
goblin06   871m         7%     70292Mi         54%

Last month (Mar Apr)'s for comparison:

CPU stats for Apr 2024

kubectl top nodes
NAME       CPU(cores)   CPU%   MEMORY(bytes)   MEMORY%
dwarf01    456m         5%     25932Mi         81%
dwarf02    316m         3%     24947Mi         78%
dwarf03    327m         4%     26507Mi         83%
dwarf04    353m         4%     26359Mi         82%
dwarf05    279m         3%     25536Mi         80%
dwarf06    323m         4%     26850Mi         84%
dwarf07    376m         4%     26702Mi         83%
dwarf08    290m         3%     25867Mi         81%
dwarf09    372m         4%     26528Mi         83%
dwarf10    328m         4%     26228Mi         82%
elf01      1533m        9%     28765Mi         22%
elf02      1958m        12%    33612Mi         26%
elf03      5858m        36%    26152Mi         20%
elf04      4438m        27%    59242Mi         46%
elf05      962m         6%     40678Mi         31%
elf06      996m         6%     30989Mi         24%
elf07      1856m        11%    36243Mi         28%
elf08      563m         3%     22437Mi         17%
elf09      1099m        6%     35952Mi         27%
elf10      1082m        6%     27806Mi         21%
elf11      2020m        12%    42999Mi         33%
elf12      1571m        9%     44910Mi         34%
elf13      1534m        9%     56472Mi         43%
elf14      2364m        14%    39203Mi         30%
elf15      3284m        20%    54181Mi         42%
elf16      915m         5%     35673Mi         27%
elf17      951m         5%     29772Mi         23%
elf18      2454m        15%    25660Mi         19%
elf19      775m         4%     45392Mi         35%
elf20      3122m        19%    31907Mi         24%
elf21      2299m        14%    41081Mi         31%
elf22      969m         6%     34268Mi         26%
elf23      1081m        6%     43334Mi         33%
elf24      1611m        10%    25941Mi         20%
fairy01    1618m        10%    81035Mi         62%
fairy02    902m         5%     49751Mi         38%
fairy03    969m         6%     35624Mi         27%
giant01    1249m        10%    25236Mi         39%
giant02    1096m        9%     25917Mi         40%
giant03    2496m        20%    25542Mi         39%
gnome01    373m         4%     13667Mi         21%
gnome02    623m         7%     27002Mi         42%
gnome03    1298m        16%    12507Mi         19%
gnome04    460m         5%     11687Mi         18%
goblin04   660m         5%     61026Mi         47%
goblin05   539m         4%     51855Mi         40%
goblin06   904m         7%     62636Mi         48%

This graph represents memory usage across the entire cluster. By far the largest consumers of RAM is rook-ceph, since ceph will basically take all the RAM you give it, for caching / performance.

RAM usage for tenants has again increased by ~25%, while CPU usage has remained relatively constant. This again indicate that there are more tenant apps in total (we know there are) which are idling most of the time, consuming RAM but not active CPU resources.

Memory stats for Map 2024

kubectl top nodes
NAME       CPU(cores)   CPU%   MEMORY(bytes)   MEMORY%
dwarf01    266m         3%     23369Mi         73%
dwarf02    177m         2%     23381Mi         73%
dwarf03    167m         2%     23191Mi         72%
dwarf04    173m         2%     25477Mi         80%
dwarf05    176m         2%     23728Mi         74%
dwarf06    159m         1%     23654Mi         74%
dwarf07    239m         2%     23515Mi         73%
dwarf08    224m         2%     23253Mi         73%
dwarf09    273m         3%     23955Mi         75%
dwarf10    180m         2%     23216Mi         72%
elf01      869m         5%     31220Mi         24%
elf02      1113m        6%     32581Mi         25%
elf03      1224m        7%     36480Mi         28%
elf04      1365m        8%     45817Mi         35%
elf05      717m         4%     37240Mi         28%
elf06      1129m        7%     23484Mi         18%
elf07      2480m        15%    42267Mi         32%
elf08      1875m        11%    38316Mi         29%
elf09      978m         6%     44215Mi         34%
elf10      1212m        7%     34618Mi         26%
elf11      1663m        10%    38939Mi         30%
elf12      2959m        18%    36174Mi         28%
elf13      1734m        10%    42492Mi         33%
elf14      1489m        9%     34886Mi         27%
elf15      1728m        10%    34203Mi         26%
elf16      4718m        29%    51986Mi         40%
fairy01    2906m        18%    74833Mi         58%
fairy02    964m         6%     45500Mi         35%
fairy03    576m         3%     32683Mi         25%
giant01    1540m        12%    30243Mi         47%
giant02    862m         7%     27471Mi         42%
giant03    2462m        20%    31634Mi         49%
gnome01    1098m        13%    26761Mi         41%
gnome02    382m         4%     12228Mi         19%
gnome03    554m         6%     10844Mi         16%
goblin04   498m         4%     59342Mi         46%
goblin05   377m         3%     49317Mi         38%
goblin06   871m         7%     70292Mi         54%

Last month (Mar 2024)'s for comparison:

Memory stats for Apr 2024

kubectl top nodes
NAME       CPU(cores)   CPU%   MEMORY(bytes)   MEMORY%
dwarf01    456m         5%     25932Mi         81%
dwarf02    316m         3%     24947Mi         78%
dwarf03    327m         4%     26507Mi         83%
dwarf04    353m         4%     26359Mi         82%
dwarf05    279m         3%     25536Mi         80%
dwarf06    323m         4%     26850Mi         84%
dwarf07    376m         4%     26702Mi         83%
dwarf08    290m         3%     25867Mi         81%
dwarf09    372m         4%     26528Mi         83%
dwarf10    328m         4%     26228Mi         82%
elf01      1533m        9%     28765Mi         22%
elf02      1958m        12%    33612Mi         26%
elf03      5858m        36%    26152Mi         20%
elf04      4438m        27%    59242Mi         46%
elf05      962m         6%     40678Mi         31%
elf06      996m         6%     30989Mi         24%
elf07      1856m        11%    36243Mi         28%
elf08      563m         3%     22437Mi         17%
elf09      1099m        6%     35952Mi         27%
elf10      1082m        6%     27806Mi         21%
elf11      2020m        12%    42999Mi         33%
elf12      1571m        9%     44910Mi         34%
elf13      1534m        9%     56472Mi         43%
elf14      2364m        14%    39203Mi         30%
elf15      3284m        20%    54181Mi         42%
elf16      915m         5%     35673Mi         27%
elf17      951m         5%     29772Mi         23%
elf18      2454m        15%    25660Mi         19%
elf19      775m         4%     45392Mi         35%
elf20      3122m        19%    31907Mi         24%
elf21      2299m        14%    41081Mi         31%
elf22      969m         6%     34268Mi         26%
elf23      1081m        6%     43334Mi         33%
elf24      1611m        10%    25941Mi         20%
fairy01    1618m        10%    81035Mi         62%
fairy02    902m         5%     49751Mi         38%
fairy03    969m         6%     35624Mi         27%
giant01    1249m        10%    25236Mi         39%
giant02    1096m        9%     25917Mi         40%
giant03    2496m        20%    25542Mi         39%
gnome01    373m         4%     13667Mi         21%
gnome02    623m         7%     27002Mi         42%
gnome03    1298m        16%    12507Mi         19%
gnome04    460m         5%     11687Mi         18%
goblin04   660m         5%     61026Mi         47%
goblin05   539m         4%     51855Mi         40%
goblin06   904m         7%     62636Mi         48%

The 2 network graphs below to represent the two points where throughput varies.. the 10Gbps "giant" nodes (which are primarily used for ingress, as incoming Debrid content is passed to elves for streaming), and the 1Gbps "elf" nodes which are our general workhorses.

Compared to April's graphs, May's graphs appear to show slightly less traffic on the Elves - this may be due to optimizations preventing transcoding / unnecessary analysis in the streamers, or it may simply indicate usage patterns which vary from day to day (more streaming occurs on weekends).

Network traffic for May 2024 (Giants)

Network traffic for May 2024 (Elves)

Last month (Apr 2024)'s for comparison:

Network traffic for Apr 2024 (Giants)

Network traffic for Apr 2024 (Elves)

These are the traffic stats for egress from Hetzner. They exclude any traffic to/from Hetzner Storageboxes or ElfStorage, since this traffic is not classified as "external".

Ingress / Egress stats for May 2024

Hetzner traffic stats for May 2024

Last month (Apr 2024)'s for comparison:

Ingress / Egress stats for Apr 2024

Hetzner traffic stats for Apr 2024

Ceph provides our own storage ("[ElfStorage][elfstorage]"), typically used for long-term slow storage and seeding, as well as all the storage for our per-app /config volumes, now backed by 10Gbps nodes with NVMe disks.

Ceph storage usage grew ~15% during May, a three-fold increase over the previous month's growth rate.

Ceph stats for May 2024 Ceph stats for May 2024

Last month (Apr 2024)'s for comparison:

Ceph stats for Apr 2024 Ceph stats for Apr 2024

Retrospective

I iz YouTuber

In an effort to expand our user-base and reduce support overhead, I've started a YouTube channel explaining our various setups. I was unpleasantly surprised by how long it takes to post-edit a video, so I've settled on a workflow which is basically a one-take screencast, avoiding all the fancy edits tricks the "pros" do, and at all costs avoid the tired ol' click, subscribe, ring the bell catchphrase!

The most comprehensive of the videos recorded so far is this 24-min saga explaining how to configure plex_debrid:

After one of my videos was removed for violating community guidelines (I mentioned torrentio), I discoverd PeerTube, and created a mirror of the channel at https://video.elfhosted.com. (Also, hosted PeerTube instances may be an interesting product, let me know if it scratches your particular itch!)

While the video content hasn't necessarily boosted new signups significantly, I'd like to think that it's reduced the support overhead for new users! I have more videos planned for simple ("how to change your dashboard background") and complex ("how to use the aars") during June.

Charts and containers re-homed

Our helm charts (including the all-important "myprecious" umbrella chart) and container images are now all under the ElfHosted GitHub organization. This allows for more clearly delineated change management, isolation of privileges for automation, and nicer branding on social previews / links!

Improved versioning

Ever wonder what changed during the daily maintenance period? That chart change above means that now releases are versioned and tracked here. Soon (after some dust clears) these will be broadcast daily before the maintenance window, and you can always confirm your current version in the footer of your ElfHosted dashboard!

Support tickets opened up

While our #elf-help support tickets have won us global acclaim, one downside which has become apparent over time is that the solutions to common problems are "siloed" in individual support tickets, creating a burden / burnout effect on our brave ElfVengers.

To reduce the overhead on ElfVengers, and to surface common solutions to common problem, we've moved general support issues to Discord topics in #elf-support, which is soon to be improved with some clever "bottiness" inspired by the Kometa discord.

Individual account-related issues ("my subscription expired") are still handled in private tickets, but generally you'll get quicker assistance by referring to the #elf-support channel (also, previous topics are searchable, so you may find your answer!).

Rate-your-elf ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

To assist with the process of gathering user reviews / testimonials, we've added a bot to capture user feedback. You'll notice these reviews surfacing at the bottom of our docs pages (look at the end of this report, for example). To add your review, just type /review into any Discord channel, and a friendly bot will prompt you.

Your feedback helps us to reach more Elves, so please keep it coming! ❤

Elf-errals earn you $5

After some positive feedback from our most prolific referrers (who can now easily cover their ongoing subs with the kickback from their referrals), we've updated and simplified our referral program as follows:

  • 1⃣ For every referral you make which turns into an order, you get a coupon for $5 off a purchase.
  • 2⃣ If you have ongoing monthly subs, you can use this to stack ElfBuckz topups to fund those subs.

To get your own unique referral link, visit https://store.elfhosted.com/my-account/myreferrals

Given the majority of our users are already familiar with our tools, an effective way to get visibility on your referral link is to respond to questions on social media, like in adjacent subreddits like r/realdebrid, r/seedboxes, r/plex, etc, clearly disclosing the nature of the referral link :)

TRaSH is TReaSUre

The promised details on using TRaSH guides with your ElfHosted apps are now published. You can do it the easy way (elfbot recyclarr sync) or the hard (self-inflicted) way!

AirDC++ "inflates"

AirDC++ was announced, providing yet another fancy UI to keep your inner geek entertained!

What's coming up?

Riven rises

Beloved Iceberg dev @spoked has fallen for our beguiling ElfHosted platform 🤓 🫶 🧝, and will be building the "next" version of Iceberg ("Riven") with ElfHosted as a first-class, tier-one ecosystem!

(Iceberg is a functional "reboot" of plex_debrid with a beautiful web UI)

This means ElfHosted users will realize "maximum gainz" of Riven immediately, and optionally be able to replace the "Advanced Infinite Streaming" Arr stacks (Radarr+Sonarr+Prowlarr+Scanarr+RDTClient) with a single app!

PlexTraktSync

PlexTraktSync is a tool which syncronises a Plex library with a Trackt library. Why would you want such a thing? One option we're exploring is to transition a user from "Infinite Streaming" (plex_debrid-based) to "Advanced Infinite Streaming" (aar-based), which would require re-creating Plex libraries. The idea would be to use Plextrackt to sync a Trakt list with an existing Plex library, and then feed that Trackt list to Radarr/Sonarr, to bootstrap the arr-based library collection.

Storage re-refactoring

In Mar 2024, we migrated some of the high-I/O-consuming apps off of our CephFS storage layer, to standalone Ceph RBD block devices, to avoid metadata bottlenecks. While this massively improved performance for Plex and the Aaars, the downside is that it's no longer possible to manage the apps' config via FileBrowser, which creates additional support overhead when (for example) the Aars go rogue and decide to perform a scheduled backup once a minute, filling up /config and crashing the pod!

During June, we'll work on a way to regain storage visibility across all the apps, without sacrificing performance to the gods of CephFS!

PostgreSQL support for the Aars

PostgreSQL aar support on ice 🧊

Update: While PostgreSQL support for the Aars sounds promising, the associated user support overheads are not insignificant (how will a user backup/restore, for example?), and with the imminent arrival of Riven, the Aars may loose their prominence in our stack. So PostgreSQL on the aars is "on ice" for now. I'll remove this section from future reports..

Radarr, Sonarr, etc all now have built-in support for PostgreSQL as a replacement to the troublesome and easy-to-corrupt SQLite database they come with by default. To support our KnightCrawler database, I've started using CloudNativePG (CNPG) for full-lifecycle database management. With a simple CR, CNPG will establish a highly-available PostgreSQL cluster, including automated failover, incremental and automatic backups to local snapshots and to an S3 bucket.

This declarative approach to creating a PostgreSQL database could allow us to, in bulk, create individual database for Arr instances, such that setup is still fully automatic, and users just "get" the PostgreSQL-enabled instances. Once again deferred by more pressing issues in April, I hope to pay more attention to this in ...\!

Offering free demos (👋 AudioBookshelf)

Audiobookself demo coming soon

I've offered a free demo instance to the AudioBookshelf community, in line with the plan below. We should see this eventuate during June!

Nothing gets my attention on a new app like a live demo. I've considered reaching out to open source projects who don't have their own online demo, and offering to host a self-resetting demo for them.

This approach has been successful with the Stremio Addons, and I think it'd be effective at gaining exposure to more niche communities.

A hosted demo would provide their potential users the opportunity to evaluate the app "live", and would also drive more traffic / recognition / SEO juice towards ElfHosted.

If you've got an open-source, self-hosted app and you'd like a free demo instance hosted, hit me up!

(We are currently donating torrent hosting to https://freerainbowtables.com)

Your ideas?

Got ideas for improvements? I'd love to hear them, post them in #elf-suggestions!

How to help

If you'd like to make a donation in recognition of our infrastructure costs, our open-source resources, or our friendly support, a simple donation product is available at https://store.elfhosted.com/product/elf-love/ 🙏

Another effective way to help is to drive traffic / organic discovery, by mentioning ElfHosted in appropriate forums such as Reddit's r/selfhosted, r/seedboxes, r/realdebrid, and r/StremioAddons, which is where much of our target audience is to be found!

Join us!

Want to get involved?

Want to get involved? Join us in Discord and come and test-in-production!

What users say..

Here's what some of our usersfriends say..

I am new here, but today I learned realized that Elfhosted is one of the best free and open source software communities I've seen, and FOSS communities have been at the center of my life since the 90s (Perl, PHP, Symfony, Drupal, Ethereum, etc.). Great open software built by great people who care = great community, and that is something special.

You've done an amazing job @Funky Penguelf with the platform you provide and this place has an awesome mix of active community caretakers and software creators that I've seen here so far like BSM, Spoked, LayeZee and other elf vengers. Keep up the energy, productivity and community and take time to enjoy it and appreciate each other!

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ @skwah (Discord)

I self host and share a fully automated ‘arr stack with Plex. Been doing so for around 4 years. Also recently got into real debrid and hosting a Comet and Annatar for Stremio. The amount of time and head banging I’ve put into it is in the hundreds to thousands of hours. From setting it up to keeping it running smoothly. Let’s not forget the cost of my server and how much it cost to keep it running.

Anyway I wanted to see what ElfHosted was about to compare. Yeah I had the whole thing setup in just a few hours. It also passes the headache of maintaining it to ElfHosted. Will I keep it no because nerdy things and maintaining my server are my hobby and quirky passion project. Will I recommend it to my friends who don’t have the money up front to buy a server, the knowledge to maintain it or desire.

Just my server alone was $2k. Power cost to keep it on yearly is $250ish, annual memberships to RD, Usenet and indexers are around $100. Then whatever a value my free time at. Which is currently at minimum my hourly pay at work or more. Yeah so take the monthly cost of all that and compare to ElfHosted Ultimate Stream package at $39 monthly, add RD to the cost and get nearly all your time back is incredibly cheap.

Lastly it seems like a lot of people forget how quickly an ultimate cable package used to cost. Or how quick paying for every stream service would add up to. Which when using ElfHosted with RD is essentially and more what you get. Quick hint it’s far above the asking price.

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As a happy Elfhosted customer—who also self hosts MANY things across about 10 severs (dedicated, VPSes, and VMs running on Synology), I wouldn’t switch to self hosting the services I get from Elfhosted. They just work with very little effort configuring things, and the support the owner and his team provides is second to none. Plus I love being part of a fledgling—but quickly growing—enterprise.

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I recently found ElfHosted and decided to start out with the Infinite Starter Kit. Within a week I realized that this was for me and upgraded to the Hobbit plan. Give it another week and I was up to the Ranger plan.

I just love the simplicity and the fact that things just work. For years I've ran a home server and between the constant maintenance and always upgrading harddrives, it became apparent I wanted to make it easier on my self. Enter ElfHosted.

Setup was super easy with the guided documentation and the discord community. It seems that somebody is available at all hours of the day to help with questions. I started with the Aars, which I knew from my prior hosting... but saw a newer product called Riven. I decided to jump in feet first. I enjoy being on the front end of an up and coming replacement for the Aars and will soon be upgrading to the annual plan!

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I’ve been using this service for a while now, and honestly, it’s a game-changer compared to anything else I’ve tried for managing my media library. The support is fantastic—super quick, and if the staff aren’t around (which rarely happens), the community steps up right away. I can’t imagine going back to any other platform.

Before this, I had my own setup with a NUC, NAS, and tools like Sonarr and Radarr. It worked pretty well for a while, and my internet speed was high enough to stream without any buffering. But in the end, it wasn’t worth the time or headache of managing all the storage and keeping everything running smoothly.

Now, with this service, everything runs smoothly in 1080p+ with no buffering issues. The interface is really easy to use, which makes managing everything a breeze. Plus, having a whole community of smart people available for guidance is a huge bonus.

I was sold from the start, which is why I quickly upgraded from a 1-month to a 3-month subscription, and I’m planning to switch to a 1-year plan soon. This service totally pays for itself, and I’m sure you won’t be disappointed. It’s been really impressive.

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Best possible options for anyone looking for the do-it-all option along with the best customer service ive experienced in this space so far. Id rate it a 6 if I could but its limited to 5/5...

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ @hashmelters (Discord)

(responding to a Reddit thread re the cost of ElfHosted vs mainstream streaming / self-hosting):

I didn't know that the goal of this project was to compete with large companies running/renting entire DCs. I was under the impression that the goal of this project was to manage the updating of almost selfhosted applications on a shared platform with other users. Basically, be my sysadmin for me.

That being said, paying for services is the 'easy button'. There is a real world cost incurred for the time saved. Time is money. Time is the most valuable currency that exists. Once time is spent, it's forever lost, one cannot retrieve it again (yet). In my mind, there are 3 options for use of time with respect to: mainstream, selfhosting, elfhosted.

  • mainstream - my time is valuable and I don't want curated content and I don't care what content that I have the ability to consume. I only like what's popular.

  • elfhosted - my time is valuable, I want my own curated content without being forced to browse past the same damn entry 500 times just to find out that I can't watch the movie I want because it's not available in my current location or was removed last week from mainstream providers.

  • selfhost - I care about costs and I have nothing but time to waste or I want to learn about the backend of the systems involved. I'll pay for my own VPS/homelab, electricity, manage the OS, manage app updates, figure out how to make the apps talk nice to each other, create my own beautiful frontend.

I know how much my time is worth, does that reddit poster know how much their time is worth? Without knowing what you are worth, you can't make effective capital expenditures with respect to the time it will take to recoup the capital.

I know I don't need elfhosted at all for my use case. I choose to stay with elfhosted because it's my 'easy button'. It's an efficient capital expense for the amount of time it saves me managing my own hardware, apps and saves me electricity costs. I'm also in a situation where I don't have upload bandwidth from my home to serve HD content to myself remotely. If I lived back in a city, I would still be here. My time is worth $$/hr.

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ @cobra2 (Discord)

"Just wanted to check in here and let @Darth-Penguini and anyone/everyone else know...WOW. I have been struggling with storage for years, maintenance of Docker containers, upkeep, all of it. Elfhosted is so freeing. It's an amazing service that I hope to be a member of for a long, long time!"

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ @Fingers91 (Discord)

"I just have to say, I am an incredibly satisfied customer. I had been collecting my own content for nearly 20 years. Starting off with just a simple external HD before eventually graduating to a seedbox with 100TB of cloud storage attached and fully automated processes with Sonarr and Radarr . However, the time came when the glory days of unlimited Google Drive storage ended. I thought my days of having my full collection at my fingertips via :plex: were behind me, until I found Real-Debrid and ElfHosted.

Now I essentially have the exact same access to content as I had before, but even better. Superior support and community involvement. Content is available almost immediately after being identified. A plethora of tools at my fingertips that give me more control and automation than ever before. Wonderfully well done and impressive! I am looking forward to being a customer for a very long time! Massive kudos to @funkypenguin 🤟

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ @BSM (Discord)

"I would recommend ElfHosted to anyone. It has been great so far and made life a lot easier than running my own setups. If you’re in the fence give them a try and help support this great community."

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Zestyclose_Teacher20 (Reddit)

"thanks for the help and must say this is the best host I every had for my server 🙂 10/10 🙂 All other places I have try have I got a lot buff etc. Your host can even give me full power on a 4K Remux on 200GB big movie file . That's damn awesome 😄"

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ @tjelite (Discord)

"What an amazing support system these guys have Chris and Layzee i think it was! Both are very patient with me even though I am a newbie at all this. Very thorough and explained everything step by step with me

I couldn’t ask for anything better than the service I have received by these guys! Happy happy client❤️"

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ @dead.potahto (Discord)

"Very happy customer. Great service"

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ @ronney67 (Discord)

"Very good customer service, frequent updates, and excelent uptime!!!!!"

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ @ed.guim (Discord)

"I had my own plex-arrs setup on hetzner for years. Yesterday I deleted everything as elfhosted has gone above and beyond it. And it has a fantastic, active community as well! Very friendly, helpful and like-minded folks always willing to help and improve the system. Top notch!"

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ @alon.hearter (Discord)

"Absolutely Amazed with the patience and professionalism of all Elf-Venger Staff including bossman penguin❤️"

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ @dead.potahto (Discord)

"@BSM went above and beyond to make sure I had all the one on one support needed with my sub. Thank you for your patience! Elfhosted continues to be Elftastic !!"

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ @bfmc1 (Discord)

"really enjoying the service from elfhosted. The setup is really easy from the guides on the website. And the help on the discord channel is really quick."

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ @jrhd13 (Discord)

"Support is amazing, and once you find a setup which works best for you it works perfectly, very happy 😊"

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ @fiendclub (Discord)

"great fast service, resolved my problem and really friendly"

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ @allan.st.minimum (Discord)

"Great service and sorted out a billing issue super quick and easy."

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ @scottcall707 (Discord)

"Very friendly support, resolved a problem with my account! I also appreciate the community that has been built around the service!"

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ @leo1305 (Discord)

"excellent customer service and very fast replies"

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ @yo.hohoho (Discord)

"Loved the simplicity, experience and support"

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ @y.adhish (Discord)

"Very friendly help as always, problem solved, one happy elf here!"

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ @badfurday0 (Discord)

"Great Helpful and Fast support. Thanks!"

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ @.mxrcy (Discord)


  1. All moneyz are in US dollarz 

  2. For simplicity's sake, we're only presenting stats for https://elfhosted.com here, and not https://store.elfhosted.com. Fully transparent traffic details are available for elfhosted.com and store.elfhosted.com 

  3. Includes "opportunity cost" of deferring billable consulting work for ElfHosted development! 

  4. The month-on-month variation here may be explained by the change in Hetzner billing models, the fallout of which was only completed in May 

  5. These are actually paid yearly in advance, but represented here monthly for consistency. Confirm my sponsorships here 

  6. Total pod count dropped because we (a) improved pruning of un-subscribed services, and (b) removed rclonefm/ui by default, but made them free to add, in the store.